From ant at zimage.com Tue Apr 1 17:37:52 2025 From: ant at zimage.com (Ant) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:37:52 -0700 Subject: [tin-bugs] No login prompt with news.eternal-september.org usenet server with tin v2.6.4 in 64-bit Fedora? Message-ID: In my updated W10 Pro.'s PC's updated SeaMonkey's usenet reader, it asks to log in. How come? Is this a bug? :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :) -- "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong." --1 Corinthians 1:27. Moving again tp Unknown. Maybe https://maps.app.goo.gl/jArR3nmjVjyM7A3u6? :( Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Phil./Ant(Dude) @ philpi at earthlink.net / ant at zimage.com / /\ /\ \ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) From urs at tin.org Tue Apr 1 19:06:18 2025 From: urs at tin.org (Urs =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan=DFen?=) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:06:18 +0200 Subject: [tin-bugs] No login prompt with news.eternal-september.org usenet server with tin v2.6.4 in 64-bit Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 08:37:52AM -0700, Ant wrote: > In my updated W10 Pro.'s PC's updated SeaMonkey's usenet reader, it asks > to log in. How come? Is this a bug? :( No, news.eternal-september.org is open for reading _without_ auth (for a limited set of groups) but requires auth for all other groups, thus the newsreader does not know if you want to auth or not (as the server doesn't tell the client that you have to). SeaMonkey likely has a setting (which you enabled somehow) to always authenticate. tin has the -A cmd.-line switch: | -A Force authentication on initial connect. Only available when | reading via NNTP. From ant at zimage.com Tue Apr 1 19:23:25 2025 From: ant at zimage.com (Ant) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 10:23:25 -0700 Subject: [tin-bugs] No login prompt with news.eternal-september.org usenet server with tin v2.6.4 in 64-bit Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 07:06:18PM +0200, Urs Jan?en wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 08:37:52AM -0700, Ant wrote: > > In my updated W10 Pro.'s PC's updated SeaMonkey's usenet reader, it asks > > to log in. How come? Is this a bug? :( > > No, news.eternal-september.org is open for reading _without_ auth (for > a limited set of groups) but requires auth for all other groups, thus > the newsreader does not know if you want to auth or not (as the server > doesn't tell the client that you have to). > SeaMonkey likely has a setting (which you enabled somehow) to always > authenticate. tin has the -A cmd.-line switch: > > | -A Force authentication on initial connect. Only available when > | reading via NNTP. Thank you for the quick answer. That worked. My previous usenet server always asked me to log in (no read only). Question: How do I get an account for your news.tin.org usenet server so I can post there instead of using the e-mail address method? Did I miss it? -- "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong." --1 Corinthians 1:27. MS & Moz's updates again. RIP, old usenet accesses & moving 2 https://maps.app.goo.gl/jArR3nmjVjyM7A3u6? :( Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Phil./Ant(Dude) @ philpi at earthlink.net / ant at zimage.com / /\ /\ \ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) From urs at tin.org Tue Apr 1 20:44:28 2025 From: urs at tin.org (Urs =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan=DFen?=) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 20:44:28 +0200 Subject: [tin-bugs] No login prompt with news.eternal-september.org usenet server with tin v2.6.4 in 64-bit Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 10:23:25AM -0700, Ant wrote: > Question: How do I get an account for your news.tin.org usenet server so > I can post there instead of using the e-mail address method? Did I miss > it? you can't, the groups are gated from the mailing lists; this is not a bidirectional gating.